Junior Ganymede
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Worlds, and Inhabitants Begotten

October 08th, 2021 by G.

By him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God

-thus Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon

Worlds, plural.  He is the savior of multiple worlds.

But I want to focus on the begotten part.  There is a lot of interesting mysticism in the scriptures about how we becomes sons and daughters of Christ, how the Son is the Father and so on.  But this revelation first emphasizes the Son’s status as the Begotten of the Father and then says that we are begotten sons and daughters of Father through the Son.  To me, the obvious answer is just that we take on Christ’s identity.  We are part of Christ, we are the body of Christ, and so in becoming Him, we become what He is–the Son of God, the Daughter of God.

 

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October 08th, 2021 06:52:39
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Sute
October 8, 2021

You could take that perspective of direct savior or multiple worlds or you child could see him as the Savior of this world whos atonement exalted sons and daughters to become heavenly parents of other worlds, which would never have been created on not for him, so literally by, through and of him those other worlds were created as well.

Surely if the scriptures mean what they say, when you become like him and you are given all the Father hath, you will not be lesser and unlike him without the ability to do the works of the father with all that he hath. And why would he give you all that he hath, if not to do what he does.

Where was there a son without a father and a father without a son, Joseph asked?

The recursive generational nature of this process would make christ a part in every creation, without actually being then one who literally went on every world to sacrifice; and equally allowing for the possibility that every world would still have their own Christ. That takes away nothing and in fact adds to his glory.


Sute
October 8, 2021

Oh dear… always proof read. Poor phone just made up some extra words.

I’ll try again

You could take that perspective of direct savior of multiple worlds or you could see him as the Savior of this world whose atonement enabled exalted sons and daughters to become heavenly parents of other worlds, which would never have been created if not for him, so literally by, through and of him those other worlds were created as well.

Surely if the scriptures mean what they say, when you become like him and you are given all the Father hath, you will not be lesser and unlike him without the ability to do the works of the father with all that he hath. And why would he give you all that he hath, if not to do what he does?

Where was there a son without a father and a father without a son, Joseph asked?

The recursive generational nature of this process would make christ a part in every creation, without actually being then one who literally went on every world to sacrifice; and equally allowing for the possibility that every world would still have their own Christ while also being dependent on this one in our world. That takes away nothing and in fact adds to his glory, without end.

In a sense this must be so at some level, because worlds and Adams without number have been created. How could it possibly be that previous exaltation that happened where linked to this specific atonement here in this world? If Christs Father had a Father, who worked out his salvation, clearly that father was not exalted through his son that he hadn’t had yet. Either that or there are no prior generations of God’s before this one. But I’m not sure how to square that with many Adams and Joseph’s Follet discourse.

The only strong reasonI see to argue against what I say as a possibility (without direct revelation of course) is just dogma in relying on those weird theories about Christ coming to this world because we are the only ones who would crucify him. I’ve never put much stock in the idea that there are infinite numbers of people in other worlds being asked to believe not only in other worlds, but in a supernal being from another planet that never existed in their planet as their exemplar. I suppose it’s possible, angels and Christ himself could come and teach it directly and leave it to subsequent generations to have faith in it. But its a pattern that seems to convienent for us to be here in the first and only world, and never to be repeated. What I saw has some extra weight when you consider the real implication of what Abraham was asked to do when he wanted to receive the inheritance of the Fathers. That should make ever covenant mother and father tremble a bit when the eternal implications are considered.


Progressive Mormon Woke Warrior
October 8, 2021

How dare you assume the genders here! At least you’re admitting Jesus was likely transgender or genderfluid. But you’re still too binary in your thinking. Wake up.

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