Strength of the Roots
This is an incomplete thought that has been percolating in my mind for a long time. Tear it apart as you see fit.
I think Enoch could not have done what he did without Adam and Abel having died first.
I think that the Tribes of Ephraim & Manassah prospered to such a degree, because of their father, Joseph. Likewise, for Abraham’s children VS Lot’s, Isaac’s children VS Ishmael’s, Jacob’s VS Easu’s.
I think that the early church after the Savior, never had a chance to keep the fulness of the Gospel, not because of their spirituality, because they lacked the spiritual foundation of ancestors supporting them.
The church in our day, was given a chance to establish Zion, but failed, at least a bit partly because of their roots. We will have no excuse not to establish Zion, because even if we are first generation members, the roots of the Church members go back 200 years.
Those roots are important. We, without them, can not be saved.
G.
July 10, 2024
Makes sense. I just read a really weird substack about some billionaires who are trying to improvise a Abrahamic natalist space religion which is all about how we are building towards God who lies at the end of the universe and is reaching back to draw us towards Him. The guy contrasted that with what he called the folk religion of the Aryan expansion, which he says was focused on ancestral cults. He said that both were incomplete, what was really needed was something that tied you in both directions.
Me: Hello? “I saw a pillar of light, directly over my head…”
But the one point you make that I have my doubts about is the one about the early church after the Savior. There was a huge strand of what you might call Messianic judaism with a long tradition at that time, as opposed to the rabbinical judaism of the pharisees, and its invisible to us because they all became Christian. But maybe you are talking about the gentile Christians?
Zen
July 10, 2024
Pardon, yes I mostly was referring to the Gentiles. But even the Jews had been in a relatively apostate condition for centuries. Theirs wasn’t the full strength there either.
Jacob G.
July 11, 2024
God makes history goes the way he wants. He knows which spirits he is sending, and has a good idea of who will humble themselves in the flesh and who will not, and he works with that.
I suspect he tends to cluster like spirits (in certain ways) into generations, as well as being mindful of family links. That’s why collective generational judgement and processing in spirit prison makes sense.
As happened (is happening?) for the diluvian generation.
You point out three generations of righteousness were insufficient roots. We also read that at the end of the millennium, another rebellion will break out. Maybe roots just aren’t enough?