Noachide, Noahic, Noachian

Sunday morning I was looking up who had talked about Noah in General Conference since 2010. My findings:
1) Noah isn’t mentioned much in Conference.
2) Wicked King Noah is mentioned much more often.
3) When Noah was named, he was merely one in a list, never expanded upon at all, such as “Adam, Noah, and Abraham made covenants.”
4) The Church’s search function is indeed awful. I resorted to using Google to find pages with Noah coming from site:churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2019/10/ or such.

(Ahem.) Leviticus 17:10-14.

I really look forward to the coming forth of the records of Adam–then we’ll learn that all these named covenants were actually given to Adam first and then renewed with subsequent prophets who were called during periods of apostasy.

Whenever you see repetition, check for a chiasmus. And yes, we have one there. But why such an emphasis on blood? I don’t know.

JM, lol.

Zen, there is clearly something magical/spiritual/supernatural going on with blood. See flesh and bone v. flesh and blood

“That bit about not eating blood. Hmm. Its not part of the law of Moses, but we still don’t follow it.”

I don’t eat blood. My meat is always well done. I don’t eat gross British cuisine like blood sausage. If you’re gonna eat that you might as well move to Africa and be a savage.

That is an interesting angle, G. The reason Christ had none of his bones broken, is that bones can represent immortality, and blood, mortality. Thus, flesh and blood is a mortal body and bodies of flesh and bone, are immortal bodies. It isn’t that immortal bodies don’t actually have red liquid in the veins and arteries.

“Can we all just settle on one adjective for Noah, and can we all agree that adjective should be Noachide?”

“Noachide” means “pertaining to the *descendants* of Noah” and is thus not strictly synonymous with the other two.

I am not so sure.

WJT,

Gotcha. So it’s not actually the adjective form of Noah, it’s the adjective form of, hmm, Noachid?

Noah had a unique position of centrality.

Noah knew (or at least was alive during the life of) Enos, grandson of Adam. Adam lived until Enos was 695, so we can assume they were well acquainted.

Noah knew (or at least was alive during the life of) Abraham.

Extending it one generation each way:

— Noah’s dad, Lamech, knew Adam.

— Noah’s son, Shem, knew Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

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Time lines here:

https://www.jrganymede.com/2014/01/02/noahs-dad-knew-adam/

https://www.jrganymede.com/2014/01/04/noah-knew-abram-shem-knew-jacob/

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From the time of Adam to Noah, the world had turned wicked. From the flood, to the end of Noah’s life, the world had mostly gone wicked again.

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As Rozy said, we will marvel when the ancient records (those Moses presumably used to write Genesis) are made public.

Every family with children and a TV eventually makes up their own “Naugahyde Laws”. Example: “Seat saved” expires in 5 minutes.

Going further with Noah’s centrality, he was 10 generations removed from Adam. And Abraham was 10 generations removed from Noah.

The church’s search function makes a little more sense if you think of it as showing not what you want to find, but what they prioritize to show.

If it’s not quality control content ranking results then it’s just incompetence.

Side note, was Noah a mostly vegetarian? Is that flesh with blood a way of saying don’t eat meat, but bugs etc are ok? That would make a lot of sense in the context of allowing the animals to multiply.

People are commanded to multiply, and commanded not to eat animals so they can multiply.

Sute: Probably in about 2009 I complained to a fellow ward member about the church search function and she told me, having worked on it, that the church leadership didn’t want to spend the money to make it as effective/efficient as “google”.

I doubt Noah was a complete vegetarian, how could they grow crops on the ark? How could they store fresh food for a year? Many of the clean animals were taken aboard in groups of seven, rather than just two, so I presume there would be enough reproduction for eating. Too bad we don’t have the complete records. Someday we’ll know for sure.

Rozy, if they could take every animal, they’d need to feed them. I don’t honestly give much thought to the logistics or accuracy of the record. But there’s a lot to learn from it and I have no problem taking it at face value.

So they had lots of animals, and plenty of food. But the verse plainly says don’t eat flesh that has blood. So some kind of vegetarian makes sense. Certain bloodless animal life too.