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The problem of unrequited love

December 05th, 2016 by Bruce Charlton


Finwe and Miriel as depicted by ‘steamey’

I was reading in JRR Tolkien’s posthumous History of Middle Earth about how unrequited love and the grief of the bereaved were regarded as a serious flaw in the elven paradise of the undying lands; and it struck me that much the same might be supposed about the Mormon understanding of Heaven.

Even on earth, the primacy (rightly) accorded to Marriage and Family does necessarily challenge those Mormons who (for many possible reasons) lack one or both. And since Celestial Marriage is an essential pre-requisite of the highest exaltation, and current revelation seems to be is that this marriage is monogamous, there appears to be a problem…

At a ‘numerical’ level, there is the matter that there seems to be a requirement for an exact matching of the numbers of men and women, and that each individual will have find one beloved spouse among this number – with none left over.

But of course, all depends on agency, and some will almost-certainly choose not to marry (indeed, some may choose not to be incarnated). And then there is this problem of unrequited love…

I mean when one truly loves the other and nobody else, but that love is not reciprocated. Or that more than one woman a particular man or vice versa – perhaps many-fold?

It seems that the numbers do not add-up and cannot necessarily be made to do so?… This is surely a flaw in the ‘perfection’ of Heaven.

But the problem is illusory – or, at least, not necessary nor permanent – in the context of an open-ended, evolving universe such as Mormons envisage.

In the first place Heaven is not a state of perfection. That is to say: for Mormons perfection is not a state but a process. Heaven changes and the loving creative-process of exaltation is the perfection of Life. The population is being added to (presumably without ultimate limit, assuming the number of ‘intelligences’ is not fixed; and especially once Men become fully divine and can beget spiritual children), and the individual people themselves are each becoming more exalted – they continue to change, experience and grow.

Therefore, over time, there is no reason why everyone should not find a truly-loved spouse; and having found such a person, celestial marriage will of its very nature make an unbreakable creative dyad of husband and wife; such that there is no ‘comparison’ of the kind we experience between potential-spouse A and potential-spouse B.

The perfection of love is both permanent and also a dynamic state ; and will overcome all such temporary problems in the course of eternal time.

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December 05th, 2016 05:38:58

How to Make America Great Again in 3 Easy Steps

December 02nd, 2016 by MC

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To my mind, the most distinctive feature of the recent presidential election was the way in which it scrambled previously-stable political coalitions. Even Mormon voters, who are perhaps more similar to one another in mindset and political views than any other religious group, found themselves opposed in ways they never thought possible: Mommy-blogger was divided against mommy-blogger, and church-baller against church-baller.

Mormon Trump voters and McMullin voters differed less in political or moral views than in the meaning they impute to the act of voting. McMullin voters (like my in-laws) seemed to think of their vote as an affirmation of their values. By withholding a vote from Trump, they were making a statement about what they consider to be acceptable behavior in a president.

Although I voted for Trump, I have no quarrel with the “endorsement” view of voting. Not one person in the whole country can say, or likely ever will be able to say, that his vote changed the result of the election. Thus, the “meaning” which we attribute to our individual vote is essentially metaphysical, and not really subject to rational argument. (more…)

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December 02nd, 2016 04:45:19

MVP Civic Repeat

November 18th, 2016 by John Mansfield

Kris Bryant, the 2016 National League MVP, is a native son of Las Vegas, born in 1992. As is the 2015 NL MVP, Bryce Harper. I am not aware of a third 24-year-old Las Vegan playing in major league baseball.

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November 18th, 2016 10:06:56

Ancient Hibernia (Ireland) according to Rudolf Steiner – an interesting parallel with the Nephites

November 15th, 2016 by Bruce Charlton

From a lecture by Rudolf Steiner at Dornach, Switzerland in 1923 – from the series Mystery Centres


And then, when the Mystery of Golgotha took place, when over in Palestine, the wonderful events came to pass which we describe as the experience of Christ Jesus on Golgotha and its surroundings, while these wonderful events came to pass in Palestine; great festivals were held [in Ireland] within the Hibernian Mysteries, and within their community, i.e. by the people who belonged to the Hibernian Mysteries.

And that which came to pass in actual fact in Palestine, was portrayed in pictures on the island of Hibernia in ways a hundred-fold, though the picture was as a memory of the past. They experienced in pictures the Mystery of Golgotha contemporaneously on the island of Hibernia, while the Mystery of Golgotha came to pass historically, in Palestine.

When later, in temples and churches, the Mystery of Golgotha was experienced pictorially, was shown in pictures to the people, then these were pictures which recalled something which had taken place on the earth, which were drawn out of the ordinary consciousness as a kind of historic memory.

These pictures existed on the island of Hibernia before they could be produced from historic memory of the past, but as they only could be produced out of the Spirit itself.

On the island of Hibernia that was spiritually seen which took place before the bodily eye in Palestine, at the beginning of our era.

And so, on the island of Hibernia, humanity actually experienced the Mystery of Golgotha spiritually. And this indicates the greatness of all that went forth later from the island of Hibernia, for the rest of the civilized world, but which vanished in later time.


As far as I can tell, Rudolf Steiner knew nothing substantive about Mormonism or The Book of Mormon. His teachings came from (or were confirmed by) a method he termed Spiritual Science or Clairvoyance (in the sense of clear-seeing).

This was a type of personal revelation, but not regarded as coming directly from God; rather it was more like being able to view or read objective knowledge of the totality of significant reality recorded objectively, and (he said) accessible to anyone ‘initiated’ in these methods (although this training included moral elements and pre-requisites, so was only possible for the worthy).

Anyway, this passage is interesting as describing an ancient Irish civilisation which – like the Nephites – was Christian before Christ, and which was aware of the events and significance of Christ’s ministry, death, resurrection and ascension.

(A major difference from the Nephites is that Steiner does not describe any visit to ancient Ireland by Christ himself. )

I personally suppose that this basic situation may well have happened in several places on earth – I mean that there may have been ancient societies (currently not known to history or archaeology) who knew of, and awaited the coming of Christ – and were spiritually aware (to varying degrees) of the nature of significance of the happenings in Palestine around AD 30-33 (or whenever precisely the ministry of Christ and his death occurred).

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November 15th, 2016 08:20:18

Why I am not a libertarian

November 14th, 2016 by Vader

His Majesty: “Because you are an evil Sith overlord, of course.”


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November 14th, 2016 18:08:12

News is not News

November 11th, 2016 by G.

They are not news, they are planned campaigns of psychological warfare.


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November 11th, 2016 09:22:07

Which President is Trump

November 10th, 2016 by G.

I see a lot of comparisons between Trump and Andrew Jackson.

But I think Zach Taylor might be a closer fit.

Not a perfect comparison, of course.


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November 10th, 2016 17:45:02

The Last Days of the Republic, Election Edition

November 08th, 2016 by Patrick Henry

This election has exceeded my expectations as far as ushering in the Caesars. It had once-respected institutions blatantly one-shotting their credibility, prosecution threats against political opponents, political opponents running criminal enterprises . . .
And then it turned itself up to 11.
Gov. McAuliffe of Virginia pardoned up to 60,000 felons so they could vote.


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November 08th, 2016 15:25:15

The “Problem of Evil”

November 04th, 2016 by G.

The “problem of evil” in Christianity is one of the greatest scams ever perpetrated. It is a Big Lie.

The real, glaring problem of evil is the evil that happens to us and the evil inside us.  Atheists and skeptics have no answer to that evil.

“Why does God not solve the evil its horrible so there is no God so there is no evil” they say.  But this is frantic distraction.  They are whistling past the graveyard.

The evil remains.

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November 04th, 2016 07:59:42

“I wonder: why can’t a woman become president of the nation?”

November 03rd, 2016 by John Mansfield

[Mafalda is an Argentine comic strip that ran in newspapers from 1964 to 1973.]

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November 03rd, 2016 18:58:07

Back on Land

October 31st, 2016 by John Mansfield

My week under the sea has ended, my first time under way though I have been serving the navy as a hydrodynamicist for the past dozen years. I may share bits of the experience if there is interest, but for now here are two experiences:

I: The last full day at sea was given to surface maneuvering off the California coast. Toward the end of the day, I requested and received permission from the chief of the watch to visit the bridge atop the sail. He assigned a sailor to help me into a harness, and I climbed up top, and spent a half hour standing there with two officers and one crewman, watching the sun lower and set as we cruised past a large island at 10 knots and the waves washed around us. Twenty minutes after going back down, I noticed some feeling within me and examined what it was. “I feel . . . serene.”

II: A couple hours after coming back in, I sat in the crew mess, eating pizza and listening to the World Series with a dozen crewmen. It felt American.

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October 31st, 2016 18:40:57


October 30th, 2016 by Zen


I just found out I am the first cousin of William Shakespeare, once removed.

John Knox, the reformer, is my 12th great grandfather.

Joseph Smith is my 13th cousin. Pretty good considering my parents are our first generation in the church.

This is, of course, in addition to my cousins, who include too many apostles, prophets, US presidents, authors, movie stars, and inventors to count. (more…)

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October 30th, 2016 19:53:43

Kudos to the Albuquerque Journal

October 30th, 2016 by Vader

For refusing to endorse any candidate for President, for the first time in recent memory, on the grounds that all are unacceptable.

We’ll have the national discussion we need, on the flaws in our nomination process and the dangers of giving so much power to an office that might be held by a Trump or a Clinton, when more people and institutions take this position.

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October 30th, 2016 14:15:24

BYU’s New Sexual Assault Stuff

October 27th, 2016 by Man SL

Probably necessary for a PR perspective, but almost certainly will not help anything and will probably hurt things.  Making concessions to the Left’s latest tactical moral panic never makes the problem go away.

It’s not about rape.  It’s about power.

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October 27th, 2016 07:10:04

New Nuclear Plant

October 20th, 2016 by G.

Good news.

More please.

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October 20th, 2016 10:17:32