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Order vs. Order

January 23rd, 2018 by G.

At the mythic level, the conflict between God and Devil is the conflict between Order and Chaos.   In the scriptures, the Dragon represents the primordial chaos from which God formed creation.

Doubtless the Devil doesn’t see it that way.  At least, doubtless he didn’t use to see it that way.

If asked, he would have said that he was for order too, just a different order.  The real conflict was order vs. order, he would have said.

Usually fighting an existing order to replace it with a different one first involves tearing down the existing order.  Chaos is usually the immediate goal, even if it is not the long term goal.

More importantly, fighting the existing order is always chaotic if the existing order is the only one possible.

God is a fact.  You cannot get around him.

Satan’s alternative order was a delusion.  It was impossible on its face.  And it was impossible in that it ignored the elephant in the room–the character and the purposes of the Almighty, who would never go along, and without whom no such existential plan is possible.

The order that cannot be is just another name for chaos.

Part of the purpose of the flesh is to get us to embrace and understand the order that is.  The possibilities that are.  (Which are, I might add, much more boundless than we credit.)

Embracing the order that is instead of the hypothetical order that cannot be is another name for love.

 

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January 23rd, 2018 06:56:11
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JRL in AZ
January 23, 2018

Yes! I have been telling others for years that Satan’s “plan” wasn’t a plan. It would not have worked. God understood that there was a way for His children to become like us. His plan was and is the only way. Satan’s idea was based on his ignorance of what it takes to become like God. He thought it could be achieved by force, but it can’t. So in Sunday School, when people say that Satan’s plan might have gotten more people back to Heavenly Father, I disagree. It wouldn’t have worked at all.


Marilyn
January 24, 2018

I watched a video about black holes linked on Dan Peterson’s blog. As you go into the black hole, the darkness grows at a disproportionate rate, and all light outside of the hole—the stars, the suns—condense into one pinpoint of blue light behind you, before all becomes black. I keep thinking of it and wondering what it could teach us about Satan. Just as each distinct property of light illuminates some aspect of God, does this engulfing blackness parallel Satan’s nature? I think it must, but it’s all so mysterious.


Bruce Charlton
January 24, 2018

“Satan’s alternative order was a delusion.” Yes – or a lie. Or sometimes one and sometimes the other.

`[Saruman] came and laid his long hand on my arm. “And why not, Gandalf? ” he whispered. “Why not? The Ruling Ring? If we could command that, then the Power would pass to us. That is in truth why I brought you here. For I have many eyes in my service, and I believe that you know where this precious thing now lies. Is it not so? Or why do the Nine ask for the Shire, and what is your business there? ” As he said this a lust which he could not conceal shone suddenly in his eyes.

‘ “Saruman,” I said, standing away from him, “only one hand at a time can wield the One, and you know that well, so do not trouble to say we! But I would not give it, nay, I would not give even news of it to you, now that I learn your mind. …”

The lie is to conceal that only one hand can weild the one ring – so all ‘alliances’ to pursue evil are ultimately chaotic, as each individual strives to be the one that wields the one.

And, as Morgoth discovered earlier, when you yourself are a part of God’s creation – you cannot ‘take over’ creation and displace God; but only reduce everything to chaos; including eventually – as the final act – yourself.

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