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Success is Dynastic

November 29th, 2017 by G.

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By their fruits shall ye know them.  One point of this scriptural acid test is to point us towards the future and permanent effects of what we do and say.  Fruits are the future of a tree.  Fruits are posterity.  And fruits come over and over again.

Does it last (or is it capable of being incorporated into and leading into something meaningful and lasting?)  Does it endure?  If not, it is not of God.

Remember, nothing is meaningful if its ripples aren’t eternal.

Even evil meaningful choices aren’t really meaningful.  Destruction by its nature cannot last.  That which can’t go on, won’t.  By definition, only good choices are eternal (meaningful choices for evil endure only in the sense that they create an absence or lack which endures eternally.  We call this damnation.  If they don’t endure eternally, it is because the soul reverses course–we call this repentance–and accepts a replacement of what they have lost from God–we call this grace).  By their fruits shall ye know them.

Ultimately, meaning is relational.  That which endures are people and our relationships to people.  The future belongs to those who show up.

The conclusion: all true success is dynastic.  By their fruits shall ye know them.

That success must be dynastic is true even in secular terms.

But that truth is deeper and different and truer in the light of the eternities.

 

 

Comments (9)
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November 29th, 2017 06:58:48
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Bruce Charlton
November 29, 2017

Yes, Yes, Yes.

(Didn’t some people look strange in those days…)


Andrew
November 30, 2017

Whoa! Good post.

It seems only in present day we purposely ignore this and miseducation ourselves against it.

Before being Christian, I remember years ago noticing that every young actor out of Hollywood ends up with psychological damage and bad habits, it was easy enough to judge that place as evil.


Leo
December 1, 2017

Consider also the genealogies in Matt. 1 and Luke 3.

Consider also that each of us belongs to a very favored line. Everyone of our ancestors, on both sides and without exception, were able to find a mate and raise at least one child to the point where that process could continue down to the present day.


Bookslinger
December 1, 2017

Leo, yeah, but… despite the cool pedigree chart, human/genealogical dynasties are not the point of the OP. Not everyone in a dynastic chain is good or successful. Successful/good kings often bred disastrous/evil offspring, as evidenced in the Old Testament. Rare was an evil king begetting a righteous heir, though it did happen on accasion.

I think G’s point of the dynastic aspect of generic “success” is in the “Step 3” post.

Whether by blood relation, i.e. learning at mother/father’s knee, or by mentoring, “success” has to be transmitted generationally. It is not spontaneous. Even Joseph Smith had angels/resurrected persons mentoring him. Joseph spent great effort mentoring the 12 and other inner circle leaders.

In corporate settings, if leaders don’t transmit successful corporate culture to the next generation of leaders, the corporation dies. If generation N does not create a successful generation N+1, then N is not truely successful, regardless of what the P/L statements say.


Bookslinger
December 1, 2017

it just occurred to me that N doesn’t know if it was successfull until N+2. N+1 may look good/profitable on paper, but N+1 is not fully successful until it replicates success.

In other words, you may raise good kids. But if your good kids don’t know how to raise good kids, then you failed.


Leo
December 1, 2017

At some point in the N+ chain the kids have to take responsibility for themselves after the baton has been passed. I would be hard pressed to find any line of great length where all living descendants were good or all were bad. The one thing we can say is that showing up for the future is very important, and we should take the responsibility to shape the future generationally very seriously.


JRL in AZ
December 4, 2017

Books:
“In other words, you may raise good kids. But if your good kids don’t know how to raise good kids, then you failed.”
I have pondered on that many times. And oh, how I hope. I have to trust that His grace is sufficient to compensate for my parenting failures.


Vader
December 4, 2017

I’ve definitely failed as a parent. My son has remained unmarried, though there are rumors he fathered an illegitimate daughter. My son-in-law was murdered by my grandson.


Bookslinger
December 4, 2017

Vader: (I note there were no brackets around that.) Sounds like a lot of Old Testament stories:

– Adam and Eve raised a murderer.
– Noah got drunk.
– All of Jacob’s boys, except two, were hell-raisers.
– Moses killed 3,000 people for worshipping the golden calf, but spared the guy who made it because it was his brother.
– King David and his boys,… oy vey.

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