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The Nephite Story didn’t End Well

August 14th, 2017 by G.

The direction the Right is going sometimes reminds me of the Nephites.  I don’t know whether the parallel I’m seeing is real or not–I don’t vouch for it–but sometimes I do see a parallel.

The Nephites (or, within the Nephites, the Church) sometimes responded to unrelenting persecution and hatred by aping their enemies.
Alma 4:

For they saw and beheld with great sorrow that the people of the church began to be lifted up in the pride of their eyes, and to set their hearts upon riches and upon the vain things of the world, that they began to be scornful, one towards another, and they began to persecute those that did not believe according to their own will and pleasure.

And thus, in this eighth year of the reign of the judges, there began to be great contentions among the people of the church; yea, there were envyings, and strife, and malice, and persecutions, and pride, even to exceed the pride of those who did not belong to the church of God.

Or the Nephites in the last days of their civilization, who correctly perceived that the Lamanites would never stop until they had exterminated all the Nephites–and invaded the Lamanites to, I suppose, exterminate them first, and thus prompted their own extermination ahead of schedule.

This is not a direction I hope for the Right.

On the other hand, if politics is war by other means, for the longest time the Right has been practicing pacifism by other means, and the record is one of unremitting failure.

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August 14th, 2017 07:27:51

August 14, 2017

As powerful as they government is, I am really beginning to think that the schools and Hollywood are more significant. Once you have the minds of the people, in a democracy (which is what we have become, instead of just a Republic) then people will find a way to make it go the way they want.

The Democrats might be in a bad way, but I really think the Republicans are having their Whigs and Zachary Taylor moment. This is the end of the Republican Party.

While I did not vote for Trump, there have been some things he has done that I approved of. But his reaction to the nonsense in Charlotteville is nothing I have patience for. We really do need a third party. (No, Libertarians, I am not talking about you. You had your perfect chance, but you were too high to do anything with it)

On a completely different tangent, I have been thinking about those in power, and how the Right thinks they can overthrow them. I think it is underappreciated how much that throws us into an unstable situation.
” And behold, now I say unto you, ye cannot dethrone an iniquitous king save it be through much contention, and the shedding of much blood.” Mos 29:21

Those power structures that the Left has, are not going to go down peacefully. We can expect fighting, and honestly, we don’t have the strength to fight among ourselves, and defend ourselves outwardly. I don’t have a solution, but watching the Right act this way, is watching a train-wreck in slow-motion. It is just starting and it is going to get hairy.

Bruce Charlton
August 14, 2017

All the mainstream parties in The West are secular utilitarians, in other words Leftists. They are all leading us to the same damnation but by slightly different routes.

The only alternative is religion, and for the West that means a society based on Christianity. Indeed this is the only true destiny.

This can happen only if enough people reject secular utilitarian politics and become primarily Christian.

In the end, this is down to many individuals making a very large and radical change in the way they understand reality, because current ideas are so very wrong in so many connected ways.

My sense is that such a thing will either happen very rapidly and overwhelmingly, or it won’t happen at all.

I don’t think anything constructive can be done to encourage this by the normal channels of communication. It can only be done at a deeper and more powerful but imperceptible spiritual level.

August 17, 2017

I think the blessing/curse is still upon the Western Hemishere, or at least upon North and Central America. From the Jaredites, to the Lehites, to us.

And perhaps the blessing/curse was extant upon this land pre-flood, too.

And it wasn’t just _plain_ wickedness. Mormon wrote of his times that it was wickedness _and abominations_, and that the Nephites were worse than the Lamanites.

That “new” division into Lamanites and Nephites, was from a group that was homogenous. They had several hundred years where there were no “-ites”, and everyone was a good guy.

Mormon didn’t go into detail as to what the abominations were. But does our society have abominations today?

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