Junior Ganymede
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Heaven is Glory

June 16th, 2017 by G.

The scriptures are aggressively old school. Who talks about glory any more? The scriptures do. The prophets from the beginning down through Joseph Smith used glory to describe the afterlife, in a way that makes it seem that glory is not just a description but somehow the essence of the thing. The scriptures mention glory more than they mention love.

They are “kingdoms of glory,” or “degrees of glory.” Judgment determines the glory that we can endure. Heaven simply is our current existence, plus glory. “That same sociality which exists among us here will exist among us there, only it will be coupled with eternal glory.” Glory was God’s object in the council in heaven, and desire for it was the motive of Satan’s rebellion.

Indeed, we call God’s realm “the heavens,” or in other words, the sky, where clouds pile up, white on white, light on light, glory on glory.

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June 16th, 2017 07:15:41

Bruce Charlton
June 16, 2017

” Heaven simply is our current existence, plus glory.”

That is worth pondering!

We need simple ‘definitions’ of Heaven – as at least a starting-point for a world which is stymied by the very notion.

June 16, 2017

The root of “glory” is associated with worldly honor, fame and renown — acknowledgement — which is part of gratitude. Pride undercuts our ability to acknowledge God in all things. Ingratitude and pride are the biggest things making it hard to experience Heaven now.

My children and I got into a discussion about how so many of the things we take for granted were not available even to kings in the old days. Our family is considered poor on official charts, and yet we have all these things. Should we not glorify God for this wonderful abundance?

But abundance tempts us to forget God. That’s why He chastens us, because He loves us.

From Isaiah: “Shall the ax boast itself against him that heweth therewith? Shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? As if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself as if it were no wood!
“Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of Hosts, send among his fat ones, leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire”

I’ve been going through experiences that are teaching me to glory in God through chastening and difficulty, that I might learn to remember Him and be grateful. It has made it possible to have Heavenly insight, despite somewhat Hellish circumstances, transforming darkness into light.

From my perspective, Heaven is where we no longer need the chastening and opposition which brings us to acknowledge God as the source of everything good. The ‘problems’ of this world are essential, because by them our pride may be challenged and we can learn gratitude.

June 17, 2017

“My children and I got into a discussion about how so many of the things we take for granted were not available even to kings in the old days.”

Such a simple thing yet so easily forgotten with the rush of modern life.

June 17, 2017

@ Lucinda,
Sometimes I stand in the spice aisle of the grocery store and contemplate how the kings of old would have reacted to knowing that even the poorest among us can obtain goods that they wouldn’t necessarily have been able to. Then I thank God for the abundance we are surrounded by.
@ G.,
I’ve actually been thinking about this a bit lately. I wonder if the reason we as a society ignore talk of glory is because we’re so busy wallowing in the darkness that our culture produces. After all, God dwells in everlasting burnings. Perhaps we just aren’t prepared to temper our souls in order to withstand the glory that we could be capable of, thus we prefer to ignore it?

June 17, 2017

One thing that I’ve realized lately is that God (both the Father and the Son) is a mad idealist. “See these intelligences? I think they should be gods.” “That’s impossible,” any reasonable critic would say. “They’re so far from that you’d have to carry them yourself.”

“Well, alright then.”

“Wait, what?”

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