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John Dehlin Owns Up

May 01st, 2014 by G.

John Dehlin has come mostly clean about his lack of belief in the Restoration.

At present, I consider myself to be an unorthodox, unorthoprax Mormon. I believe in many of the central, non-distinctive moral teachings within Mormonism (e.g., love, kindness, charity, forgiveness, faith, hope), but I no longer believe many of the fundamental LDS church truth claims (e.g., anthropomorphic God, “one true church with exclusive authority,” that the current LDS church prophet receives privileged communications from God, that The Book of Mormon and The Book of Abraham are translations, polygamy, racist teachings in the Book of Mormon, that ordinances are required for salvation, proxy work for the dead).

It’s a good thing for others to see what the endpoint of his approach is. And its a good thing for him. Admitting to yourself where you are is healthy spiritually. Kudos to Mr. Dehlin. Once he concedes that a nonbelieving and nonpracticing Mormon is the same as a non-Mormon, he will be able to seriously address himself to the big questions of life.

And kudos to Bruce Nielson for being persistent in pushing Dehlin to be more open and transparent.

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May 01st, 2014 10:39:54

May 1, 2014

At this point, he’s just daring his local priesthood leaders to excommunicate him.

I hope they wisely choose to ignore him a little longer.

May 1, 2014

Lol. Well said Adam. I especially love “Once he concedes that a nonbelieving and nonpracticing Mormon is the same as a non-Mormon, he will be able to seriously address himself to the big questions of life.” Thanks for the chuckle and for sharing Mr. Dehlin’s “almost coming out” statement.

May 1, 2014

On the contrary, I would not say a nonbelieving and nonpracticing Mormon is the same as a non-Mormon. At this point, being a non-mormon would be much safer and less spiritually damaging.

May 1, 2014

Next maybe we can get Kate Kelly to come clean…

Michael Towns
May 1, 2014

Oh come on. Kate Kelly is the spiritual harbinger of things to come, just as soon as the prophets wise up and see the writing on the wall.

May 1, 2014

His Majesty: “And when his website talks about ‘celebrating’ Mormonism, I assume that means dancing on the graves of their prophets.”

His Majesty is no Mormon, but he knows hypocrisy when he sees it.

May 2, 2014

Dance like no Eternal Judge and angels are watching?

Man SL
May 2, 2014

“Next maybe we can get Kate Kelly to come clean…”

If her husband gives her permission to.

May 2, 2014

John made a big thing about how he was the one, and the Church leadership was only interested in the 99. We each, as disciples of Christ, are under obligation to leave the 99 in search of the one – to bring the one back to the fold. This does not, however, necessitate a change in the fold. Sometimes the one wanders off and then demands that the fold be rebuilt around them. When we do this – when we settle by encouraging or condoning the one to remain where they are rather than encouraging them to return to Christ, we do neither them not Him any favors. I hope John comes back to the fold, but I am glad the Church does not rebuild the fold around him.

Meg Stout
May 2, 2014

If one doesn’t sing the doxology or practice the praxeology, but was born to a friend of a cousin of a Mormon, we’ll still let you come to meetings and eat the casseroles and be our friend.

I think of how Joseph invited the Missouri sheriffs to be his guests of honor after they’d detained him, beaten him, and done their level best to haul him back to a state where his life wasn’t worth a plug nickel. I wish I could have known Joseph. The more I study his life, the more impressed I am with the man.

As for me, I love to sing doxologies. And I rejoice in performing the praxeologies. Meanwhile my door is open to any child of God who needs what acceptance my household may offer.

May 2, 2014

Meg, you’re right, of course.

I hope John’s Mormon family and friends continue to be his friends and keep their doors open to him.

There is an awkwardness still, though. One can see it by visiting the infogalactic page on John Dehlin. This page still, as of this afternoon, describes John as a “devout Mormon” and speaks of him being cleared by repeated investigations by his local ecclesiastical leaders.

No, I’m not going to change it. I have tried, once or twice, in different guise, to suggest that one or two of the articles on LDS-related topics at infogalactic are a bit off the mark, and quickly discovered that WP:NPOV is interpreted in connection with LDS-related topics to mean that actual LDS are not permitted to edit on the grounds that we’re all too brainwashed to be objective about our own religion.

Bruce Charlton
May 2, 2014

My impression is that the man is a Black Sheep, not a Cat (by this definition : http://charltonteaching.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/compensation-and-christianity-cats-not.html).

In other – he is not an individualistic, heretical, bold and distinctive rebel who has hewn-out his own principled belief system (as he seems to imagine); but a sheep of another fold: a loyal, submissive, mainstream, establishment, off-the-peg, bog-standard, middle-of-the-road, tick-the-boxes, secular Leftist/ Liberal.

Indistinguishably one of the ninety-nine percent of such persons, among the US ruling elites.

May 5, 2014

Meg, if he was a run of the mill lost soul I would agree with you. He is not. Even Jesus said if a body part offends, you cut it off. Joseph Smith tried to treat others with respect, but he was also known to call out hypocrisy and excommunicate even his closest advisers when needed. That said, he was quick to forgive when and if they repented.

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