Comments on: Fourth Trimester Abortion http://www.jrganymede.com/2011/09/14/fourth-trimester-abortion/ We endeavor to give satisfaction Tue, 22 May 2012 23:29:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Agellius http://www.jrganymede.com/2011/09/14/fourth-trimester-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-45270 Agellius Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:06:36 +0000 http://www.jrganymede.com/?p=5860#comment-45270 I can't claim expertise in moral theology, but I think this article explains the issue pretty well: http://www.cuf.org/FileDownloads/doubleeffect.pdf If you read it I would be interested to know whether it answered your questions. I can’t claim expertise in moral theology, but I think this article explains the issue pretty well:

http://www.cuf.org/FileDownloads/doubleeffect.pdf

If you read it I would be interested to know whether it answered your questions.

]]> By: Adam Greenwood http://www.jrganymede.com/2011/09/14/fourth-trimester-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-45247 Adam Greenwood Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:59:07 +0000 http://www.jrganymede.com/?p=5860#comment-45247 I understand that Catholics do not believe that tubal resection is an abortion at all, based on the principle of double effect, though there reasoning is a little obscure to me. I understand that Catholics do not believe that tubal resection is an abortion at all, based on the principle of double effect, though there reasoning is a little obscure to me.

]]> By: Pecos Bill http://www.jrganymede.com/2011/09/14/fourth-trimester-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-45244 Pecos Bill Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:45:05 +0000 http://www.jrganymede.com/?p=5860#comment-45244 That there slope is slicker than a crude metaphor on a doorknob. That there slope is slicker than a crude metaphor on a doorknob.

]]> By: Vader http://www.jrganymede.com/2011/09/14/fourth-trimester-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-45243 Vader Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:38:52 +0000 http://www.jrganymede.com/?p=5860#comment-45243 Millstone offense ... nice expression. It isn't widely known, but Padme had a tubal pregnancy once. Most of the time these things run their course. The fetus cannot possibly survive long in the Fallopian tube, and a spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) soon follows. Occasionally the spontaneous abortion is delayed to the point where there is danger of rupture of the Fallopian tube and life-threatening internal bleeding. This was the case with Padme. We did not stop to consult our bishop or pray for confirmatory revelation before consenting to a tubal resection. Frankly, it never occurred to us to do so until later, when there was time for reflection. There was no chance at all of the fetus surviving, and significant chance of imminent real harm to Padme, so it seemed open and shut. I'm not sure it even occur to me to think of this as an abortion; I thought of it as I would think of a D&C following any other form of miscarriage. Later, it sunk in what we had done. I think we would have done the same thing regardless (as I said, it seemed kind of open and shut) but it might have been good to have had a spiritual reassurance about it, for later. But hours counted. There certainly would not have been time to consult the First Presidency, which is probably why ordinary bishops are given the awesome responsibility of judging the rare exceptions to the rule against abortion. Millstone offense … nice expression.

It isn’t widely known, but Padme had a tubal pregnancy once. Most of the time these things run their course. The fetus cannot possibly survive long in the Fallopian tube, and a spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) soon follows.

Occasionally the spontaneous abortion is delayed to the point where there is danger of rupture of the Fallopian tube and life-threatening internal bleeding. This was the case with Padme. We did not stop to consult our bishop or pray for confirmatory revelation before consenting to a tubal resection. Frankly, it never occurred to us to do so until later, when there was time for reflection. There was no chance at all of the fetus surviving, and significant chance of imminent real harm to Padme, so it seemed open and shut. I’m not sure it even occur to me to think of this as an abortion; I thought of it as I would think of a D&C following any other form of miscarriage.

Later, it sunk in what we had done. I think we would have done the same thing regardless (as I said, it seemed kind of open and shut) but it might have been good to have had a spiritual reassurance about it, for later.

But hours counted. There certainly would not have been time to consult the First Presidency, which is probably why ordinary bishops are given the awesome responsibility of judging the rare exceptions to the rule against abortion.

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