Junior Ganymede
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Ecumenical Chastity

August 02nd, 2011 by G.

Where did the Church get these people from such a broad range of faiths? Curious. Just as curious as the decision to make an ecumenical chastity video in the first place. I’d like to know more about who made this video and how.

What difference will the ecumenicism make to my young men who see the video? Why not just have 6 LDS kids who can speak to the LDS experience? Well, most American Mormon kids have been raised in an environment where diversity is associated with fashion and cultural cache, so having a racially mixed and religiously mixed group is just doubling down on the perceived potency. But even more the answer, I think, is that the video is harnessing the positive value of peer pressure, or put another way, the value of imagined community. When the LDS faith is experienced as a peculiar commitment in the middle of near total opposition, it is strong but fragile. There is a certain desperation to it. But when it is experienced as a more perfect instantiation of perennial truth, it feels as permanent as the mountains. At least that was my experience when young, when I started reading more widely and discovered that Christianity and belief had a long history. My interaction and even embrace of the Christian tradition strengthened my Mormon faith. I would similarly bet that LDS youth who felt themselves part of a worldwide, ecumenical youth commitment to chastity would have their specifically Mormon commitment to chastity strengthened.

As we learned in the territorial days, trying to live apart in the middle of a hostile culture is dangerous. We may have no choice, but if we can we should try to make or find allies.

Its interesting, too, how similar our vocabularies for talking about chastity and sex are. For most of the video I thought the Lutheran girl was the Mormon, though I was hoping the Mormon kid was either Eric or Gladys.

Its interesting how the video implies that we, the Mormons, are leaders in this worldwide youth movement for chastity, both in the fact that we are making it and also with the lead-off quote from the Proclamation. I wouldn’t read too much into one video, but the move is similar to the ones the Catholics have made post Vatican II where they have stopped treating other Christian sects as purely heresies but have redefined Catholicism as sort of the inherent leader of those sects, God’s shock troop, if you will.

Comments (8)
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August 02nd, 2011 11:31:56

John Mansfield
August 3, 2011

Listening to these young virgins explain the virtue of virginity is a nice model of faith. We receive good teachings, they feel correct, and our limited experience and observation ratifies our chosen path.Seeing through a glass darkly, we naively hope for eternal glory.

August 3, 2011

There is something to be said for proclaiming that Mormons, too, are in tune with C.S. Lewis’ tao.

Adam G.
August 3, 2011


that’s dark even by Jr. Ganymede standards. Has Vader been talking to you again?

My hope for eternal glory is not the only reason I cling to my naivete, but its a principal one.

funny you should say that, I was thinking of it when I watched the video.

August 3, 2011

“We naively hope for eternal glory”

That struck me as a bit dark, too.

On the other hand, perhaps becoming as a little child means cultivating a certain kind of naivete. I’m really stretching the semantics, I know, but can there be a wise naivete that is redeeming?

John Mansfield
August 3, 2011

I seem to have written poorly. We hope for eternal glory that we haven’t yet experienced. Our idea of it comes from prophetic promises and spiritual hints mixed with our own interpolations. That is what I meant by naive. Unfortunately, the word naive is pretty much limited these days for an insult directed at fools. That is not how I was using it, but it would have been better not to have used the word at all.

I think there is a wise kind of naivete that trusts that wide swathes of experience (those found in a broad way leading to destruction) are not good to acquire.

August 3, 2011

The Dark Side promised knowledge that I would never learn from a Jedi. It was true, but very much not worth the price.

John Mansfield
August 4, 2011

In related news:

“‘The moment the Brandon Davies thing hit the media, one of our associate athletic directors received a check from a woman who was not a member of the LDS faith, but saw the integrity being upheld and said she wanted to support this,’ Doman said. ‘From that moment on, we’ve been receiving phone calls from moms and dads saying they wanted us to recruit their son because they want him in that environment. The volume of that hasn’t been like that prior to this year.'”

Deseret News

I wonder if there are gentiles out there who try to steer their daughters toward Mormon boys for the sake of chastity.

Blue-gum Minstrel
August 4, 2011

Come, girls, come, and listen to my noise,
Don’t you marry the Mormon boys,
For if you do, your fortune it will be,
Johnnycakes and babies are all you’ll see.

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