Junior Ganymede
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“Dear Congressman Kennedy”

November 10th, 2009 by Vader

Bishop Tobey lays it out very nicely.

Now, it happens that, while I believe the Catholic clergy are by and large men of good will, I don’t believe they have the authority they claim. I believe the only legitimate Apostolic authority on the earth today has its offices in downtown Salt Lake City. Which is simply to say that I’m a Mormon, not a Catholic.

But it’s clear Bishop Tobey sincerely believes his Church has that authority, and from that perspective, his letter is spot on. I could wish to have expressed myself so well to men and women who claim to be good Mormons but wish the Church would, for example, legitimatize homosexual relationships.

Let me pause and catch my breath.

One nagging question that remains with me, because I don’t have the full context of the Bishop’s letter (and Google failed to dredge it up), is whether the Congressman disagreed with the Catholic Church’s stance on abortion, or its stance on the duty of public officials regarding abortion. I don’t have much truck with Mormons who want the Church to legitimatize homosexual relations. I am much more tolerant towards those who claim to agree with the Church’s moral condemnation of homosexual relations, but disagree with its approach to public policy on homosexual relations.

It happens I support the Church’s involvement in Proposition 8, but there have been other official Church positions on public policy (opposition to a flat income tax comes to mind) where I have been inclined to respectfully disagree. I don’t think that makes me less than fully a Latter-day Saint.

In any case, there are far more plausible contraindications to my alleged Latter-day Saintliness than my views on tax policy. (It was all Tarkin’s fault. The man was insane.)

Comments (4)
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November 10th, 2009 10:32:09

November 12, 2009

Wow, he really called him to repentance and even brought up the “family ties” argument.

BTW, Tarkin didn’t make you torture your daughter with that old-school ball thing with the needle. I don’t accept the whole I was taking orders argument.

November 12, 2009

At the time, she was nothing to me but a Rebel spy and a traitor. And truth serum is fairly painless, regardless of whatever embellishments you may have picked up from Rebel propaganda.

It’s not like I had her drawn and quartered.

November 13, 2009

What started it was Kennedy saying that the Church could not truly call itself pro-life while opposing the healthcare bill “just” because it didn’t exclude abortion funding. ( http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=34700 )

Bishop Tobin (not “Tobey”) replied by saying Kennedy didn’t know what he was talking about, since the bishops had been in favor of healthcare reform for years, and that he should apologize to the American bishops who had been publicly expressing opposition to the bill. ( http://www.lifenews.com/state4530.html )

Somewhere along the line Kennedy said that “The fact that I disagree with the hierarchy on some issues does not make me any less of a Catholic”, which is the typical liberal line nowadays, and pretty much ever since Vatican II — and a perilous position it is to take, too, for their souls I mean. Which is why I personally congratulation Bishop Tobin on speaking out the way he has. Catholics need desperately to hear that it does indeed matter whether you “agree” with the hierarchy — otherwise known as submitting to legitimate, divinely sanctioned authority. Otherwise you are you own authority, and in that case why do you need the Church at all? Maybe because it happens to own all the buildings? I don’t know.

But the duty of public officials regarding abortion has now entered into it, since Bishop Tobin said, “Catholic legislators who ‘obstinately’ oppose church doctrine on such key issues ‘really have to question their membership in the church’.”

Adam G.
November 13, 2009

The fact that I’m not a Catholic doesn’t make me any less of a Catholic, Agellius, despite your meanspirited, exclusionist intolerance.

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