Comments on: Why Boys Need Men Teachers

By: Adam Greenwood

Adam Greenwood — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:52:26 +0000

Outstanding link (ht to johncwright.livejournal.com):

http://wittingshire.blogspot.com/2005/06/raising-men.html

By: Adam Greenwood

Adam Greenwood — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:36:11 +0000

Another anecdote:
One of our most ill-behaved boys–he spends most the school year drugged to his gills–was very well-behaved at our campout and really enjoyed himself. The secret was that when he started acting out at the beginning, we hurt him until he cried, and then we did a long session on using axes. He cut through a good sized log by himself with a hatchet.

The scouts are excited about a woodcutting service project for the fall. We’ve promised that if they’re good, we’ll let them fell a couple of trees with axes.

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By: Bookslinger

Bookslinger — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:00:48 +0000

And African-American boys need some African-American men as role models for their teachers and principals. And etc., etc. "Lean on Me" with Morgan Freeman. "Stand and Deliver" with Edward James Olmos.

By: Agellius

Agellius — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:00:10 +0000

KLC writes, “Over the last several years I’ve noted the valedictorians of the local schools, overwhelmingly female.”

This year’s graduating class, at the parent-run school mentioned above, consisted of seven girls and one boy. Guess who was the valedictorian? Nope, it was the boy.

The moral? Dump the public schools, get together with some parents and found your own school. : )

By: KLC

KLC — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:49:05 +0000

I think about this alot with two boys in the public school system. When my oldest son was in 6th grade they got a new principal, a man. He had attended that school since kindergarten and until the new principal arrived the only men on that campus for six years were the custodians.

My school district in a large LA suburb has announced 5 new elementary and middle school principals in the last month, all women. My son’s middle school got a new principal last year, a woman.

I thinnk one of the consequences of this skew is that boys are beginning to see school as a girl thing, and thus something they won’t participate in. Over the last several years I’ve noted the valedictorians of the local schools, overwhelmingly female. I’ve noted the published stories about academic achievement awards, mostly female. I’ve gone to my kid’s elementary school good citizenship assemblies, almost all girls. If we accept the fact the intelligence and the ability to succeed in school are not gender specific it appears that school is becoming a place where girls feel comfortable and boys feel estranged.

Where are the champions of diversity when it comes to school personnel?

By: Vader

Vader — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:00:56 +0000

Agellius,

I think C.S. Lewis gives a great deal of insight on this, both in “Screwtape Proposes a Toast” and “The Abolition of Man.” You are probably already familiar with these, but if not, you’re in for a treat.

I can certainly relate to Lewis’ Men without Chests. Though in my case there are many other bits and pieces missing as well.

By: Agellius

Agellius — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:18:35 +0000

I heartily agree. My sons had nothing but female teachers in their diocesan Catholic school from grades 1 through 8. They hated school.

Then we switched them to an independent Catholic school founded by parents, in which no less than half the teachers are men. They are much happier.

I don’t know how the independent school manages to keep so many male teachers. Maybe men don’t mind being teachers, they just don’t like teaching in the public (or diocesan) schools.

There’s probably something about the entire establishment educational system that is inherently anti-man, or at least unmanly, which the parent-run school manages to avoid.

By: Tim

Tim — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:57:52 +0000

It’s a shame that there aren’t more men teaching in public schools. I would argue that one of the reasons for it is that it’s getting harder and harder to support a family on just a teacher’s salary, and so many men leave the profession or don’t even consider it in the first place. After a few short years of graduate school, I will be making at least 2 or 3 times as much as I made as a public school teacher. A salary that can support a family.
I’d argue another reason is the lack of respect society in general gives to public school teachers. Change this, and more quality male teachers would bother staying in the profession.
Until this happens, the performance of boys in public schools will not increase, and they will not get the role models they so desperately need.

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Why Boys Need Men Teachers | Times & Seasons, An Onymous Mormon Blog — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:44:32 +0000

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